It's insanity. I can't believe how this kind of thinking is so widely accepted. But then again, if I were indoctrinated from kindy through college, I guess it would seem like common sense to me too.
So weird that you posted this today. I had a conversation with a non-practicing Jewish man from Brooklyn recently. I asked him what his opinion on Israel vs. Palestine was. He said that Israel was greedy and selfish, didn't deserve that much land, and that it was all ridiculous.
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I was stunned. This man reviled his own. He said that Israelis were awful people. After about 2 min. of conversation I realized that he knew very little on the actual history of the conflict. He was just going along with "the crowd".
Yes, a lot of this "New Age" internationalism stems directly from misreadings of both recent Jewish holocaust experience and the paranoid reflections of several post-modern neo-Marxist philosophers like Foucault (Disciplinary Societies) and Deleuze (Societies of Control).
It's no wonder the New Left "counter-culture" movement has such a large following.
Borders represent "limits." Cultures impose historical "limits" on behaviour. Nothing upsets a "progressive" more than a "limit" they had no hand in crafting. They fail to understand that it is the "limit" which defines the "form"... and w/o it, the best one can expect is "anarchy".
And yes, "anarchy" is also a goal of a large segment of the New Left.
...but when you "limit" freedom, the result is "liberty"... something as precisely predictable as the orbit of a planet or the precession period of the earth's axis (26k years).
I read the New Left's opposition to borders to a wild horse's opposition to corrals. They want man to no longer be "tamed", but released into the "wild". They are, as Freud called them, civilization's "discontents".
Like Rousseau, they see a certain "romanticism" of mankind returned to his "natural state". They see humans as gentle "bonobos"... and NOT the fierce and vindictive killing machines we psychologically "repress" via the self-limit imposing social control mechanisms inherent in culture and civilization.
Your comments about the psychology of The New Left gave me an idea. Have you considered blogging about this, the phenomenon of civilization's discontents, with the New Left as your audience? With a "polite", inviting, teaching tone? I see many in this movement as droids. Simple-minded young people who don't realize how much they've been conned. Maybe they DO realize it on a subconscious level, but it would be terrifying to admit consciously. Anyway, what if you drew some of those types to your blog with the intent of showing them how far down the road towards anarchy they've been taken? Pollyanna, I know. Hey, it'd been good practice for anger control (not that you even want that).
But I really do think that the majority of "progressives" are painfully uninformed on the very issues they claim to be fighting for. They don't really know why they "hate" corporate America.
meh. rambling.
I've just always felt like there's an army springing up of mindless youth, and if they could be educated, really educated, it might change things...a little bit.
He labels himself as an Armenian, but he was born in Lebanon and advocates for Palestinian causes. -----
Well, I'd be accused of "profiling", but as I watched the video and listened to the lyrics, I was thinking that this guy was a total pali sympathizer. He's VERY thinly-veiled.
this New Left must garner a feeling of pwer (WtP??) from their "activism". It looks so asinine to me. So uninformed. So pathetic. So lemming-like.
I'm sure they'd say the EXACT same thing about my views. :P
Have you considered blogging about this, the phenomenon of civilization's discontents, with the New Left as your audience?
I'd love to do something like that, only I haven't the foggiest idea how one would go about doing it. I generally write for me, not other people. And as much as I'd like to imagine that I could sustain and entertain such an audience, I've very little faith in my ability to initially attract such an audience. Besides, I'm an habitual pedant, a better target for satire than dispenser of it. I'm better suited to trolling the hard-core Left and pushing them onto the defensive.
I think you'd be great at it. If you're a target for satire (which I don't quite see), maybe that would be the 'entertaining factor'. As for drawing them in....I could help. ;-)
Just in case you're bored and need something extra to do... :-)
If you're a target for satire (which I don't quite see)...
You've heard of Stephen Colbert? My daughter absolutely LOVES him. Jon Stewart? She LOVES him, too.
I don't "flatter" my daughter, but she thoroughly enjoys the flattery of others. Stewart and Colbert make my daughter believe that her political opinions are both "hip" and "popular" and that mine (often critical) are not only out of date, but those of a veritable neo-luddite (Freud wrote "Civilization & it's Discontents" 100 years ago). And no admonition or raised example from me will likely ever reverse that condition. Only "experience" will likely instruct her to be on the lookout for false praise and to listen to her father, cuz he does't blow sunshine up her arse. ;)
It's insanity.
ReplyDeleteI can't believe how this kind of thinking is so widely accepted.
But then again, if I were indoctrinated from kindy through college, I guess it would seem like common sense to me too.
So weird that you posted this today.
I had a conversation with a non-practicing Jewish man from Brooklyn recently. I asked him what his opinion on Israel vs. Palestine was. He said that Israel was greedy and selfish, didn't deserve that much land, and that it was all ridiculous.
!!
I was stunned. This man reviled his own. He said that Israelis were awful people.
After about 2 min. of conversation I realized that he knew very little on the actual history of the conflict. He was just going along with "the crowd".
Yes, a lot of this "New Age" internationalism stems directly from misreadings of both recent Jewish holocaust experience and the paranoid reflections of several post-modern neo-Marxist philosophers like Foucault (Disciplinary Societies) and Deleuze (Societies of Control).
ReplyDeleteIt's no wonder the New Left "counter-culture" movement has such a large following.
Borders represent "limits." Cultures impose historical "limits" on behaviour. Nothing upsets a "progressive" more than a "limit" they had no hand in crafting. They fail to understand that it is the "limit" which defines the "form"... and w/o it, the best one can expect is "anarchy".
And yes, "anarchy" is also a goal of a large segment of the New Left.
...but when you "limit" freedom, the result is "liberty"... something as precisely predictable as the orbit of a planet or the precession period of the earth's axis (26k years).
ReplyDeleteI read the New Left's opposition to borders to a wild horse's opposition to corrals. They want man to no longer be "tamed", but released into the "wild". They are, as Freud called them, civilization's "discontents".
ReplyDeleteLike Rousseau, they see a certain "romanticism" of mankind returned to his "natural state". They see humans as gentle "bonobos"... and NOT the fierce and vindictive killing machines we psychologically "repress" via the self-limit imposing social control mechanisms inherent in culture and civilization.
Serj hates America. He has a "hybrid" political agenda.
ReplyDeleteHe labels himself as an Armenian, but he was born in Lebanon and advocates for Palestinian causes.
ReplyDeleteHe's part of the New Left progressive/Islamic radical nexus, IMO. Anything to weaken your enemy...
ReplyDeleteYour comments about the psychology of The New Left gave me an idea.
ReplyDeleteHave you considered blogging about this, the phenomenon of civilization's discontents, with the New Left as your audience? With a "polite", inviting, teaching tone?
I see many in this movement as droids. Simple-minded young people who don't realize how much they've been conned. Maybe they DO realize it on a subconscious level, but it would be terrifying to admit consciously.
Anyway, what if you drew some of those types to your blog with the intent of showing them how far down the road towards anarchy they've been taken?
Pollyanna, I know.
Hey, it'd been good practice for anger control (not that you even want that).
But I really do think that the majority of "progressives" are painfully uninformed on the very issues they claim to be fighting for. They don't really know why they "hate" corporate America.
meh. rambling.
I've just always felt like there's an army springing up of mindless youth, and if they could be educated, really educated, it might change things...a little bit.
He labels himself as an Armenian, but he was born in Lebanon and advocates for Palestinian causes.
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Well, I'd be accused of "profiling", but as I watched the video and listened to the lyrics, I was thinking that this guy was a total pali sympathizer. He's VERY thinly-veiled.
this New Left must garner a feeling of pwer (WtP??) from their "activism".
It looks so asinine to me.
So uninformed.
So pathetic.
So lemming-like.
I'm sure they'd say the EXACT same thing about my views. :P
Have you considered blogging about this, the phenomenon of civilization's discontents, with the New Left as your audience?
ReplyDeleteI'd love to do something like that, only I haven't the foggiest idea how one would go about doing it. I generally write for me, not other people. And as much as I'd like to imagine that I could sustain and entertain such an audience, I've very little faith in my ability to initially attract such an audience. Besides, I'm an habitual pedant, a better target for satire than dispenser of it. I'm better suited to trolling the hard-core Left and pushing them onto the defensive.
It's a nice idea, though.
I think you'd be great at it. If you're a target for satire (which I don't quite see), maybe that would be the 'entertaining factor'.
ReplyDeleteAs for drawing them in....I could help. ;-)
Just in case you're bored and need something extra to do... :-)
If you're a target for satire (which I don't quite see)...
ReplyDeleteYou've heard of Stephen Colbert? My daughter absolutely LOVES him. Jon Stewart? She LOVES him, too.
I don't "flatter" my daughter, but she thoroughly enjoys the flattery of others. Stewart and Colbert make my daughter believe that her political opinions are both "hip" and "popular" and that mine (often critical) are not only out of date, but those of a veritable neo-luddite (Freud wrote "Civilization & it's Discontents" 100 years ago). And no admonition or raised example from me will likely ever reverse that condition. Only "experience" will likely instruct her to be on the lookout for false praise and to listen to her father, cuz he does't blow sunshine up her arse. ;)
Just call me Geppetto for now. She'll be back, but not before she's seen a bit of the world for herself.
ReplyDeleteCan you tell who my "Emile" is? ;)
ReplyDeleteCan you tell who my "Emile" is? ;)
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On a macro or micro level?
And no admonition or raised example from me will likely ever reverse that condition.
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Well, duh. You're her dad. ;-)
Macro, of course! Micro.... I'm NO "Mentor"! ;)
ReplyDeleteIt makes me laugh that you deny being a mentor.
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We're all mentors, you know...
lol! Telamonian Ajax didn't fair too well from following the advice of his... ;)
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