tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1164672274814613038.post8747782473562881452..comments2023-04-15T08:14:53.058-07:00Comments on Joey Conservative's Corner: Idylls on a Perfect MarriageJoey Conservativehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02521728886621816690noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1164672274814613038.post-31894522880890777992010-11-15T06:55:17.347-08:002010-11-15T06:55:17.347-08:00What does the painting say about a perfect marriag...What does the painting say about a perfect marriage?Jenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09524607431704119975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1164672274814613038.post-44974994309221244112010-11-15T08:12:19.771-08:002010-11-15T08:12:19.771-08:00Nothing. It was meant to represent an "idyll...Nothing. It was meant to represent an "idyll". The perfect marriage,IMO, is best represented by the two musicians... but the "latter" setting contravenes the meaning of an idyll.<br><br>Call me a Rousseauean. Society "corrupts," it doesn't "instruct". One needs "innoculations" against it so as to develop amour de soi vice <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amour-propre" rel="nofollow">amour propre</a>.Joe Conservativehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02696367580635901992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1164672274814613038.post-32569980948362243402010-11-15T08:18:20.192-08:002010-11-15T08:18:20.192-08:00So the painting was my attempt at an "innocul...So the painting was my attempt at an "innoculation." I suppose it failed...Joe Conservativehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02696367580635901992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1164672274814613038.post-58780039313114326792010-11-15T08:21:38.401-08:002010-11-15T08:21:38.401-08:00...for balance was NOT achieved....for balance was NOT achieved.Joe Conservativehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02696367580635901992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1164672274814613038.post-80816443164153066302010-11-15T08:34:03.325-08:002010-11-15T08:34:03.325-08:00...more on Rousseau and the nature of society...more on <a href="http://records.viu.ca/~johnstoi/introser/rousseau.htm" rel="nofollow">Rousseau and the nature of society</a>Joe Conservativehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02696367580635901992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1164672274814613038.post-58793912758687960882010-11-15T08:42:22.861-08:002010-11-15T08:42:22.861-08:00...what Johnson misses in his "final analysis......what Johnson misses in his "final analysis" is Rousseau's "Bible" for educating Sophie... Fenlon's "Telemachus". He see's Sophie as Emile's "Athena/mentor" not some third rate puppet. Her duty is to pull her husband's strings, not be pulled by them. Hers is the power "behind the throne."Joe Conservativehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02696367580635901992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1164672274814613038.post-42000194194703550602010-11-15T08:56:04.129-08:002010-11-15T08:56:04.129-08:00've actually read Fenlon. I don't believe ...'ve actually read Fenlon. I don't believe that Johnston has.Joe Conservativehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02696367580635901992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1164672274814613038.post-61718302580962832232010-11-15T09:45:47.365-08:002010-11-15T09:45:47.365-08:00ps - It's also interesting to note how a relat...ps - It's also interesting to note how a relatively "modern" philosopher like Johnston characterizes "Hobbesian Society" and the way the post-modern <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIus7lm_ZK0" rel="nofollow">philosophers of today</a> do (disciplinary/control). The bias of 20-20 hindsight and ressentiment is in FULL bloom.Joe Conservativehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02696367580635901992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1164672274814613038.post-45077053555731821852010-11-15T09:49:12.135-08:002010-11-15T09:49:12.135-08:00...the "invisible hand" of the free-mark......the "invisible hand" of the free-market has given way to totalitarian Government's manufacturing and polishing of legal/regulatory eyeglasses for Plutus. ;)Joe Conservativehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02696367580635901992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1164672274814613038.post-65195686144304986342010-11-15T16:26:49.061-08:002010-11-15T16:26:49.061-08:00Okay. I see that I need to read Rousseau. When you...Okay. I see that I need to read Rousseau. When you described him as untrusting and somewhat paranoid, I decided to avoid him. But I like his concept of amour de soi. <br><br>I was just asking your opinion, or view of the painting. I saw it as impossible...actually it brought to mind Nietzsche's comments about a perfect marriage requiring a concubine.<br><br>I preferred the music, myself.Jenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09524607431704119975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1164672274814613038.post-69241292746297584362010-11-15T16:31:58.953-08:002010-11-15T16:31:58.953-08:00On Deleuze and Foccault, I was keeping up until sh...On Deleuze and Foccault, I was keeping up until she mentioned Steigler. Steigler's theory is a contributory society?<br><br>Where is the current ressentiment?Jenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09524607431704119975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1164672274814613038.post-15502074044515880802010-11-15T16:31:58.952-08:002010-11-15T16:31:58.952-08:00oops. Foucault.oops. Foucault.Jenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09524607431704119975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1164672274814613038.post-47019818418435353472010-11-15T16:37:24.072-08:002010-11-15T16:37:24.072-08:00He see's Sophie as Emile's "Athena/me...He see's Sophie as Emile's "Athena/mentor" not some third rate puppet. Her duty is to pull her husband's strings, not be pulled by them. Hers is the power "behind the throne." <br>-------<br>"He" is Rousseau? And you agree with Rousseau, obviously, being a Rousseauean.Jenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09524607431704119975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1164672274814613038.post-40369712535591345872010-11-15T17:38:40.386-08:002010-11-15T17:38:40.386-08:00I don't know who Stiegler is, I've never h...I don't know who Stiegler is, I've never heard of him before. As for philosophers, I don't think it really matters which ones you read so much as you understand the ones you do read. I liked Rousseau.... he wrote very simply and clearly. He's much easier to understand than most. And yes, "he" is Rousseau. "Et vitam impendere vero" was his motto... and he lived it.Joe Conservativehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02696367580635901992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1164672274814613038.post-15592202047784322032010-11-15T17:49:05.535-08:002010-11-15T17:49:05.535-08:00Where is the current ressentiment?It's a nihil...<i>Where is the current ressentiment?</i><br><br>It's a nihilism that seeks to punish success. The very concepts used to describe society are born of this ressentiment.... "disciplinary"... "control".<br><br>I was "trained" as a systems analyst. The "technique" one applies to study a problem should NOT be the "result/finding" of the study itself (s system of control). It's like going searching for information about microscopic organisms and announcing to the world that all the micro-organisms in the universe live on stained glass slides...Joe Conservativehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02696367580635901992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1164672274814613038.post-14078675011265119182010-11-15T17:59:29.248-08:002010-11-15T17:59:29.248-08:00It's a nihilism that seeks to punish success. ...It's a nihilism that seeks to punish success. The very concepts used to describe society are born of this ressentiment.... "disciplinary"... "control".<br>------<br>I see. It's prevalant and very dark, isn't it?<br>I see no optimism in these philosopies. There's a doomsday attitude, it seems. Sometimes I wonder if we aren't a self-fulfillig prophesy.Jenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09524607431704119975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1164672274814613038.post-90160989662543460272010-11-16T05:41:59.667-08:002010-11-16T05:41:59.667-08:00Self-fullfilling prophesy, indeed! They hunt for ...Self-fullfilling prophesy, indeed! They hunt for Snarks with spoons and find nothing but <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PckvsBhGxJ8" rel="nofollow">Boojums</a>.Joe Conservativehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02696367580635901992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1164672274814613038.post-40564106337841847922010-11-16T05:48:40.128-08:002010-11-16T05:48:40.128-08:00Oooops. Forget the spoons....The domain of the sn...Oooops. Forget the spoons....<br><br><i>The domain of the snark is an island filled with chasms and crags, very distant from England. On the same island may also be found other creatures such as the Jubjub and Bandersnatch. It is the same island where the Jabberwock was slain. The snark is a peculiar creature that cannot be captured in a commonplace way. Above all, courage is required during a snark hunt. The most common method is to seek it with thimbles, care, forks, and hope. One may also "threaten its life with a railway share" or "charm it with smiles and soap".</i>Joe Conservativehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02696367580635901992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1164672274814613038.post-87924608463504847232010-11-16T06:30:46.009-08:002010-11-16T06:30:46.009-08:00...I hate Snarky philosophies. They turn the very......I hate <a href="http://ebooks.adelaide.edu.au/c/carroll/lewis/snark/" rel="nofollow">Snarky</a> philosophies. They turn the very word philo-sophie into an oxymoron.Joe Conservativehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02696367580635901992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1164672274814613038.post-34442184578546231202010-11-17T06:54:47.473-08:002010-11-17T06:54:47.473-08:00I don't like that there's no life at the e...I don't like that there's no life at the end of it. Very little affirmation...Jenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09524607431704119975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1164672274814613038.post-83343738017071665912010-11-17T08:08:00.386-08:002010-11-17T08:08:00.386-08:00Can't enjoy the few carrots you chance upon fo...Can't enjoy the few carrots you chance upon for all the sticks you imagine yourself soon to be beaten with...Joe Conservativehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02696367580635901992noreply@blogger.com