tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1164672274814613038.post200706683284570966..comments2023-04-15T08:14:53.058-07:00Comments on Joey Conservative's Corner: Left Looking RightJoey Conservativehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02521728886621816690noreply@blogger.comBlogger92125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1164672274814613038.post-75141040254314139852010-09-14T07:39:05.379-07:002010-09-14T07:39:05.379-07:00No. Not at all.No. Not at all.Jenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09524607431704119975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1164672274814613038.post-91413930079894632922010-09-14T07:58:00.809-07:002010-09-14T07:58:00.809-07:00You don't think that Left just thinks the Righ...You don't think that Left just thinks the Right are a bunch of h8ers?Joe Conservativehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02696367580635901992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1164672274814613038.post-40208859591662425752010-09-14T09:05:06.541-07:002010-09-14T09:05:06.541-07:00btw - Sometimes when you just "run at it"...btw - Sometimes when you just "run at it"... it's turns out to be a brick wall. ;-)Speedy Ghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01640242783952822072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1164672274814613038.post-50627507746769493232010-09-14T09:06:20.030-07:002010-09-14T09:06:20.030-07:00...now it's 2nd and ten. ;-)...now it's 2nd and ten. ;-)Speedy Ghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01640242783952822072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1164672274814613038.post-28251423407025529132010-09-14T11:18:55.177-07:002010-09-14T11:18:55.177-07:00I think it's funny how Joe used "h8ers&qu...I think it's funny how Joe used "h8ers". <br><br>I think that the Right bewilders the Left at times. It can be said of both sides, of course. When both finally admit how similar they really are..things will be much smoother. I have great optimism here. Truly I do!!<br><br>Fuckin' brick walls. Piss me off so much. <br>:dismantling, brick by brick:<br><br>Open Letter to Joe C:<br><br>Sometime in the future, whenever you deem appropriate, would you consider doing a post on the virtue (or lack thereof) of clear communication? What I mean by that is, language without the use of metaphor. I think that this would be so interesting, especially coming from such a...person as yourself. And by that last statement, I mean to imply that you are a master of metaphor, which I'm sure you know. I've been told that I over-explain things. Do you think so?<br><br><br>Sincerely, <br><br><br>Jen<br>(pass the Tylenol)Jenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09524607431704119975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1164672274814613038.post-82705875772436219032010-09-14T12:33:44.495-07:002010-09-14T12:33:44.495-07:00:-):-)Jenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09524607431704119975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1164672274814613038.post-55790540478828199892010-09-14T13:47:38.014-07:002010-09-14T13:47:38.014-07:00Are you searching for a cotton stalk?Maybe I ought...Are you searching for a cotton stalk?<br>Maybe I ought to run away.Jenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09524607431704119975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1164672274814613038.post-38663234000791080882010-09-14T16:58:26.401-07:002010-09-14T16:58:26.401-07:00Cotton stalk? I was thinking more along the lines...Cotton stalk? I was thinking more along the lines of a green willow branch...<br><br>But no, I don't do corporal punishment. Mental anguish is much more painful and lasts ever sooooo much longer. ;-)<br><br>And I'd be happy to comply with your request... once I've mulled it over a bit.Joe Conservativehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02696367580635901992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1164672274814613038.post-18708434239665788532010-09-15T14:40:41.973-07:002010-09-15T14:40:41.973-07:00Mental anguish is much more painful and lasts ever...Mental anguish is much more painful and lasts ever sooooo much longer. ;-)<br>--------<br><br>don't do this. people don't like it. at all.<br>(See, that's plain talk.)Jenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09524607431704119975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1164672274814613038.post-72003277438471530662010-09-15T16:52:08.301-07:002010-09-15T16:52:08.301-07:00So is this,...but if I don't, who will?All it ...So is this,<br><br>...but if I don't, who will?<br><br>All it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to remain silent.Joe Conservativehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02696367580635901992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1164672274814613038.post-21880935181260300522010-09-16T05:11:12.417-07:002010-09-16T05:11:12.417-07:00Plato, "Republic"I perceive, I said, tha...Plato, "Republic"<br><br><i>I perceive, I said, that you are vastly amused at having plunged me into such a hopeless discussion; but now hear the parable, and then you will be still more amused at the meagreness of my imagination: for the manner in which the best men are treated in their own States is so grievous that no single thing on earth is comparable to it; and therefore, if I am to plead their cause, I must have recourse to fiction, and put together a figure made up of many things, like the fabulous unions of goats and stags which are found in pictures. Imagine then a fleet or a ship in which there is a captain who is taller and stronger than any of the crew, but he is a little deaf and has a similar infirmity in sight, and his knowledge of navigation is not much better. The sailors are quarrelling with one another about the steering—every one is of opinion that he has a right to steer, though he has never learned the art of navigation and cannot tell who taught him or when he learned, and will further assert that it cannot be taught, and they are ready to cut in pieces any one who says the contrary. They throng about the captain, begging and praying him to commit the helm to them; and if at any time they do not prevail, but others are preferred to them, they kill the others or throw them overboard, and having first chained up the noble captain's senses with drink or some narcotic drug, they mutiny and take possession of the ship and make free with the stores; thus, eating and drinking, they proceed on their voyage in such a manner as might be expected of them. Him who is their partisan and cleverly aids them in their plot for getting the ship out of the captain's hands into their own whether by force or persuasion, they compliment with the name of sailor, pilot, able seaman, and abuse the other sort of man, whom they call a good-for-nothing; but that the true pilot must pay attention to the year and seasons and sky and stars and winds, and whatever else belongs to his art, if he intends to be really qualified for the command of a ship, and that he must and will be the steerer, whether other people like or not-the possibility of this union of authority with the steerer's art has never seriously entered into their thoughts or been made part of their calling. Now in vessels which are in a state of mutiny and by sailors who are mutineers, how will the true pilot be regarded? Will he not be called by them a prater, a star-gazer, a good-for-nothing?<br><br>Of course, said Adeimantus.<br><br>Then you will hardly need, I said, to hear the interpretation of the figure, which describes the true philosopher in his relation to the State; for you understand already.<br><br>Certainly.</i>Joe Conservativehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02696367580635901992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1164672274814613038.post-20899536792544269002010-09-19T09:28:07.627-07:002010-09-19T09:28:07.627-07:00...but if I don't, who will?All it takes for e......but if I don't, who will?<br><br>All it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to remain silent.<br>------------------<br>Noble intentions which I admire...but unless you are face to face, knowing a person (as much as we can know one another), this is too painful and dangerous, in my opinion. <br><br>In this "virtual" world, taking this kind of responsiblity implies direct involvement with 'the other', but it's then so easy to turn the computer off...and be free of them...their feelings, their needs, their pain. Like you once said, there are no consequences. This is the very reason why there is the horrible side effect of feeling used, discarded, treated as rubbish for the gratification of the other. It's a dangerous thing, I think.Jenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09524607431704119975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1164672274814613038.post-24375649180756078792010-09-19T09:33:37.998-07:002010-09-19T09:33:37.998-07:00The internet is the perfect way to 'have your ...The internet is the perfect way to 'have your cake and eat it, too'. Keep life clean and tidy off-line, but get entangled and gratified on-line. <br>And underneath all of that lies a feeling of utter disregard...that in "real life" I am not worthy. I am nothing. <br><br>just rambling...Jenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09524607431704119975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1164672274814613038.post-16137353567387143872010-09-19T12:21:41.667-07:002010-09-19T12:21:41.667-07:00Indeed. But who are you talking about, you or me?<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLkOE4XDBis" rel="nofollow">Indeed.</a> But who are you talking about, you or me?Joe Conservativehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02696367580635901992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1164672274814613038.post-33461605495839325662010-09-19T12:29:59.163-07:002010-09-19T12:29:59.163-07:00Both.And underneath all of that lies a feeling of ...Both.<br><br>And underneath all of that lies a feeling of utter disregard...that in "real life" I am not worthy. I am nothing.<br>------<br>But that comes from me.<br><br>Why? Do you feel used, disregarded, and unworthy? Just objectified?Jenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09524607431704119975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1164672274814613038.post-61628025928525868222010-09-19T12:36:10.905-07:002010-09-19T12:36:10.905-07:00As for belief that the "other" is worth ...As for belief that the "other" is worth "nothing"... the investment in time belies the charge.Joe Conservativehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02696367580635901992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1164672274814613038.post-84696308692157391082010-09-19T12:38:17.227-07:002010-09-19T12:38:17.227-07:00Why? Do you feel used, disregarded, and unworthy? ...<i>Why? Do you feel used, disregarded, and unworthy? Just objectified? </i><br><br>On-line? Off-line? All the time. The internet is merely a medium.Joe Conservativehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02696367580635901992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1164672274814613038.post-73158182569699354112010-09-19T13:42:01.535-07:002010-09-19T13:42:01.535-07:00Why? Do you feel used, disregarded, and unworthy? ...Why? Do you feel used, disregarded, and unworthy? Just objectified? <br><br>On-line? Off-line? All the time. The internet is merely a medium.<br>--------------<br><br>Maybe you project that onto others because you do that to others. Just a thought.Jenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09524607431704119975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1164672274814613038.post-9305242752988844272010-09-19T15:07:47.525-07:002010-09-19T15:07:47.525-07:00lol! ditto.lol! ditto.Joe Conservativehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02696367580635901992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1164672274814613038.post-71124696774148248582010-09-19T15:58:15.308-07:002010-09-19T15:58:15.308-07:00I know...I thought of that immediately. :Pduh.I know...I thought of that immediately. :P<br>duh.Jenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09524607431704119975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1164672274814613038.post-62007919339974835002010-09-19T15:59:20.372-07:002010-09-19T15:59:20.372-07:00I laughed at myself...again. If I ever lose the ab...I laughed at myself...again. <br>If I ever lose the ability to laugh at myself, I wonder what I'll laugh at?<br><br>Anyway. Happy Sept. 19th to you. I do hope you've had a good one.Jenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09524607431704119975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1164672274814613038.post-77841064762217520882010-09-19T17:20:47.540-07:002010-09-19T17:20:47.540-07:00But for what it's worth...I don't JUST dis...But for what it's worth...I don't JUST disregard, use, and objectify.<br><br>I'm not quite that cynical.Jenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09524607431704119975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1164672274814613038.post-44062353025660145012010-09-20T06:21:19.312-07:002010-09-20T06:21:19.312-07:00So, we're both just a couple of users?That see...So, we're both just a couple of users?<br>That seems so...base and...depressing.<br><br>Do you think that there's dignity in it?<br>In 'listening to the music without the end in mind'?<br>It's hard for me to find the dignity.Jenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09524607431704119975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1164672274814613038.post-65762599707837217272010-09-20T06:53:53.337-07:002010-09-20T06:53:53.337-07:00You've got to make your own meaning. I like t...You've got to make your own meaning. I like to think of my form of "usery" as "defensive". I seldom attack unless attacked first. And I am often placed under attack.<br><br>What are you willing to "sacrifice" for? Therein lie your values and priorities.Joe Conservativehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02696367580635901992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1164672274814613038.post-37150336262322916042010-09-20T07:03:40.567-07:002010-09-20T07:03:40.567-07:00Everlasting possession of the good is every person...Everlasting possession of the good is every person's "end". It's also not possible. "Happiness" is a pursuit, not an end.<br><br>Defining "ends" and achieving them, THAT is the pursuit of the Overman. Sacrifice is the price he willingly pays to achieve them.<br><br>In that manner, he masters his own fate.Joe Conservativehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02696367580635901992noreply@blogger.com